Dialogues on Truth Podcast: Rupert Spira with Francis Lucille Moderated by Simon Mundie
In this much-anticipated ‘Dialogues on Truth’ podcast episode, author and broadcaster Simon Mundie moderates a delightful conversation with Rupert and Francis Lucille. They discuss a wide range of topics including non-duality, its implications, the similarities and differences between Rupert’s and Francis’s approach, and how their relationship evolved from one of student and teacher to one based on friendship.
They delve into their histories and influences, their different styles and ways of expressing the non-dual understanding, and various aspects of fundamental reality. They also explore enlightenment, the ‘hard problem of consciousness’, and the projection of perfection onto those who are considered to be so-called spiritual teachers. In fact, the two assert that rather than being considered teachers, that people view them as friends sharing truth with friends.
Timestamps:
0:00 Rupert and Francis: A Short History
5:30 The Role of Suffering: Francis Lucille
10:49 Influences: Krishnamurti
12:25 Influences: Jean Kein
22:53 The Role of Suffering: Rupert Spira
32:09 Friends, Not Teachers
35:05 How Rupert Met Francis
43:21 Understanding Based on Experience
50:46 Advaita Vedanta’s Open Secret
53:54 The Fundamental Reality of Our Self
1:00:55 What Is Enlightenment?
1:07:15 Projecting Perfection onto Teachers
1:15:09 The Evolution of Approaches to Non-Duality
1:20:45 Experiments to Remove the Belief in Separation
1:28:37 Is Consciousness Located in the Body?
1:30:37 Is the Ego a Problem?
1:34:22 Sharing the Non-dual Understanding
1:41:26 Different Ways of Expressing the Non-Dual Understanding
1:43:03 The Hard Problem of Consciousness
1:48:22 More Questions About Reality
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